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Last post 05-07-2009, 4:53 PM by mp222. 14 replies.
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  • mustard algae

     07-22-2006, 5:03 AM

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    I have a pool, that the mustard algae won't go away. I have shocked it, and physically removed the algae. Brushed, Vacuumed and backwashed. Does copper sulfate work on mustard algae? Any other suggestions?
    Thanks
    Keith B. Janus
    Janus Mechanical Consulting
  • mustard algae

     07-22-2006, 11:14 AM

    Copper Sulfate should work on just about every algae. I would suggest adding a metal remover upon destruction of the algae.

  • mustard algae

     07-23-2006, 8:59 AM

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    Use Yellow Out by Coral Sea or Yellow Treat by United Chemical.

    Copper sulfate will stain your pool...

    Bill Tech II

    Bill Tech II
  • mustard algae

     07-23-2006, 9:28 AM

    Copper sulfate can stain your pool, but its the most effective solution for removing stubborn mustard algae.

    The copper can be easily removed after the algae it killed.

  • mustard algae

     07-23-2006, 4:07 PM

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    What does the yellow out and other one have in them Bill?
    Keith B. Janus
    Janus Mechanical Consulting
  • mustard algae

     07-23-2006, 5:13 PM

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    Neither company will tell.

    But they really work...

    It is not copper thought...

    Bill Tech II

    Bill Tech II
  • mustard algae

     07-24-2006, 6:50 AM

    yellow out.

    This invention relates to a process for reducing the biological activity in water by feeding a solution of BrCl stabilized by a hydrohalic acid or an aqueous halide salt into the water to be treated in an amount sufficient to effect the reduction of biological activity in the water thus treated.


  • mustard algae

     07-24-2006, 3:06 PM

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    The pastor of our church had a similar case of yellow algae that would not clear despite high chlorine and Yellow Treat. Leslie's found high TDS and recommended drain/refill. That worked well.
  • mustard algae

     08-07-2006, 4:06 PM

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    This is not correct for Yellow Out. It contains no Bromine. Yellow Treat is sodium Bromide. The ingredients for Yellow Out can be obtained by writing to the US Patent office. For a nominal fee they will send you the patent material with the ingredients listed.


    Rick Bays

    Rick Bays
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  • Re: mustard algae

     06-08-2008, 8:23 PM

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    The water in my pool is just over a year old and I'm also staring at mustard algae that doesn't want to go away.  I had replaced the water last year because I was told my TDS count and calcium hardness were way high.  Following advice at Leslies, I have been using Chlor-brite, a buffered di-chlor, with the new water.  Chlor-brite is advertized as a daily sanitizer.  I never had to add acid. 

    oh, fairly significant fact:  I had added buffer to the fresh water last year but then so did the guy I rented the pump from, so I thought I started with too much buffer.  The first round of chemical analysis had a nominal count (~40ppm).

    Just today Leslie's told me my Cyanuric Acid level was 320 (!).  It appears this could only be that way from regular use of Chlor-Brite, maybe a total of 130 lbs dumped in the 33K-gallon pool so far (I had also used it for shocking).  Total alkalinity is also measured high at 140.  TDS wasn't even measured.  The water looks fine except for the algae.  I added copper algaecide last week, but it did not work any miracles.

    So, I am currently battling the algae by dumping some water out each week and shocking with calcium hypochlorite granules and yellow-out enhancer.  Brushing every other day at least.  I have also cleaned my DTE filter again (not just backwashed but pulled it apart and pressure washed the filter elements).

    Bottom Line: my stabilizer levels are too high to let the chlorine do its job on the algae, which I read is resistant to nominal chlorine levels anyway.  new water is perhaps a necessary part of the solution.

    --Larry
     

     

     

  • Re: mustard algae

     06-08-2008, 9:47 PM

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    Hello Larry,

    The effect of CYA above do 50 parts does not really change the effect on Chlorine...  Remember for every lb of Tri or Di Chlor you are adding one half pound of CYA...

    Before you change water, test the fill water for TDS and Hardness.

    For a good rule on Hardnes, TA and Ph goto www.swimpool.com.

    If you are paying for water that and unecessary expense in changing the water.


    Bill Tech II
  • Re: mustard algae

     06-21-2008, 8:11 AM

    Storms:

     

    The effect of CYA above do 50 parts does not really change the effect on Chlorine...  Remember for every lb of Tri or Di Chlor you are adding one half pound of CYA...

     

    In which way?

     

    Cyanuric acid has a huge effect on the behavior and effectiveness of chlorine.  Anything over 100 is very alarming and personally I don't like to see it over 50. I am not sure if your statement suggest that once it hits 50 it stops having any effect whatsoever, but it really ties up the chlorine and decreases it's effectiveness.

     

    When you deal with a lot of residential pools, you monitor the FAC levels, which is typically acceptable, but you still have no idea how effective your chlorine is, just how much of it is in the water.


    When you work a lot with ORP controllers you get very familiar with the relationship between chlorine and the cya.  We commonly see levels of 5ppm of chlorine having the same ORP @ 100ppm of CYA, as pools with 2ppm @25ppm.

     

    Here is a decent article on the subject/

     

    http://www.poolspanews.com/2008/052/052acid.html 

     

    Personally any level above 100ppm I would correct, and at 320ppm I would consider replacing all of the water.

     

  • Re: mustard algae

     06-22-2008, 3:27 PM

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    Yes higher levels of CYA do effect Chlorine performance, but it does not increase proportionately, with the increase of CYA...

     


    Bill Tech II
  • Re: mustard algae

     05-07-2009, 4:53 PM

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    Sodium Bromide 99% - 100% is in yellow treat
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