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Pool Filter Schedule.

Last post 01-18-2007, 1:44 AM by gelfey. 10 replies.
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  • Pool Filter Schedule.

     07-05-2006, 9:47 AM

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    This question is asked to settle an argument between me and my wife. Our 26K gallon pool is opened for the season, covered, indoors, but not being used at present. Chemical levels are in appropriate ranges.

    How often do we need to filter the water if the schedule is less than once daily? For how many hours should the filter run? We are informed it would take six hours to run this amount of water through the filter at least once. Thanks.
  • Pool Filter Schedule.

     07-06-2006, 12:51 PM

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    No one has responded to this so I'll give you my (amateur) opinion. I believe I read here that the pool water should be turned over every 2 days. If that's right, and if you were informed correctly, then you should run the pump for 3 hours per day, or 6 hours every other day.

    You must have a pretty hefty circulation system... I filter my 22,000 gallon pool 5 hours each day.

    Mike
  • Pool Filter Schedule.

     07-06-2006, 7:15 PM

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    The Pool Tech training manual states a Home pool should have at least an Eight hour turnover period.

    Divide the volume of your pool by 480 mins and this give you the flow rate needed for an 8 hour turnover...

    Now how long and at what rate will really keep a pool clean may be less for very light loads and longer for heavy loads.

    It really sometime comes down to what works to keep a pool clean and clear.

    Just remember a faster flow rate is not always better...

    Bill Tech II

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  • Pool Filter Schedule.

     07-06-2006, 10:28 PM

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    So the 26,000 gallon pool would have need a flow rate of 72 GPM in order to turn over in six hours. Isn't that pretty hefty? I don't think I'd try to move that much water with 2" pipe and fittings...
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     07-07-2006, 4:05 AM

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    Thanks much for these responses. Wife wins. But it brings up another question. How does one rate the flow of a filtering system, GPM?
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     07-07-2006, 8:20 AM

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    Gallons per Minute (GPM) would refer to the entire circulation system. The best way to know GPM is to install a flow meter somewhere along the plumbing. Calculating it is tricky, as you need to know your pump characteristics (usually obtained from the manufacturer) as well as the "total dynamic head" (resistance) of your plumbing. You can estimate your TDH by calculating your total feet of pipe and count/type of all fittings, then refer to http://www.plumbingsupply.com/flowchart.html

    Once you've estimated your TDH, reference your pump specs; for example, see the chart at the bottom of http://www.staritepool.com/specs/pool_maxe_specs.htm
  • Pool Filter Schedule.

     07-07-2006, 3:03 PM

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    Thanks once again. I'll look up the references.
  • Pool Filter Schedule.

     07-07-2006, 7:51 PM

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    Filter pad hydraulics are not hard to figure...

    All you need to know in order to find the flow rate for a system is the Pumps vacuum reading and the filters pressure reading.

    Then call your PUMP's Mfgr give them the model and hp of your pump and they will tell you the systems flow rate...

    For 70 gpm in 2 in pvc pipe is a litte more than 6.5 fps.

    While this is acceptable I would slow it down...

    Bill Tech II

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  • Re: Pool Filter Schedule.

     12-18-2006, 10:30 AM

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    I find customers that want a larger inground pool are looking for and expecting a little more than usual. When they move them indoors these expectations increase and they are also have the means to pay for them and don't mind doing so. Because of higher potential for odor etc. indoors there are other considerations. Its all dead in the water if the circ system isn't up to par.

    As above, I would not even think in terms of 8 hr turnover anymore. First thing I do is divide by 6, then 60 and get the number above at 72gpm. Perfect for a 30" sand filter at about 15gpm./sq.ft. Want awesome? Turns out that 4hr turnover is 108gpm which is a very nice match for a 36" sand filter. 2" plumbing on the 30", 2.5" on the 36". Bill mentions 6.5fps which is a nice velocity for suction lines but we can actually go a bit higher on returns without too much issue. There will be 2 suctions lines also, so very low velocity there. Putting a 2-speed pump in and operating on low speed will be very efficient. If I post much in here you will see me say that a lot Stick out tongue These upgrades would probably cost no more than an extra 2k on a what, 50k pool? The operational costs will be less and the water should be better and easier to maintain. Any issues that occur can be more readily dealt with because there is the capability for huge turnover. Awk! Thats 3cents worth!

    Your original question on how long to run a filter system. You need to run it enough to keep it clean. Clarity is easy, if it is debris. It then needs the filter to run. Chemical imbalance is another issue and when it shows up it is too late, now you play catch up. And if it is Algae, you really might have some work to do. The algae will probably be because the chlorine could not get to the spot where the algae is growing in sufficient strength, in sufficient time.

    Second question, "How does one rate the flow of a filtering system, GPM?" The flow in a circulation system would be in Gallon Per Minute, but a filtration system would be Gallons per minute per Square Foot of Surface Area. That will refer to Sand, Cartridge or DE and they all have different flow rates. These rates also vary between private pools and public pools, and between "governing" bodies such as your local Health Department. Sand for instance is usually residentially rated at 20gpm per sq.ft. A typical 24" diameter Sand filter is about 3 sq.ft. so about 60 gpm water flow through it. Public would be 15gpm/sq.ft. or about 45gpm. Cartidge would be 1gpm res and .375gpm public, D.E. usually 2gpm either way. As I say, those numbers can vary.
  • Re: Pool Filter Schedule.

     12-18-2006, 4:34 PM

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    If you really want awesome try two Sta-Rite PLM200's with a two speed 3/4 hp Sta-Rit3 Maxe-Pro pump.

    You could expect 2 to 3 year cleaning cycles and a system that can trap bacteria...

    I have been doing this system for over 12 years and saving my customers upwards to 500 dollars a year on electricty.


    Bill Tech II
  • Re: Pool Filter Schedule.

     01-18-2007, 1:44 AM

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    hi,

     

    once in a whole day is sufficient. i prefer to use water filter for the purification of water. tha's very much necessary for the purfication of water.

     

    thanks

    gelfey

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